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News/Business. Erin Burnett. (2013)

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  CNN    Erin Burnett Out Front    News/Business.  
   Erin Burnett.  (2013)  

    February 8, 2013
    8:00 - 8:59pm PST  

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hey, good evening again. it's 11:00 here on the east coast. we have two big breaking stories. the manhunt for a rogue ex-cop
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and suspected triple killer. crist fordorner is his name. these were taken january 28th outside a hotel in orange county, california. there's also new video on the firing range as an lapd cadet. we have new information on the manhunt, and we'll look into what dorner's grievance was with the lapd. we know he was fired from the force. the question is why? why was he removed from the police force? he said it was due to corruption because he broke the blue wall of silence. also here in the east, the punishing winter storm we have been covering a lot in the last hour. just now reaching its peak, and many hours ahead. not as bad in the new york region as it might have been. hurricane force winds in some places. power lines down. more than 130,000 customers without power tonight across new england. thousands of flights, as you know, canceled. even snow plows getting stuck. ia see that snow plow in boston.
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metro north cancelling service. the major highway from boston into long island shut down. jason carroll is in boston for us as he has been for several hours. ali velshi is on the cape, cape cod, in the town of dennis port. ali, it's looking like the snow, you're in a lull now. is that true? >> a little bit. the weirdest thing in the world just happened. i came out here to be on tv with you. and these two guys are here. i have no idea who they are. i thought they were our crew, so i told them to get out of the shot. can't possibly imagine anyone being out here. i have been out here hours and hours and have not seen a soul. these are jim and garrett. where do you live? >> about a quarter mile away. >> what on earth are you doing? >> we got a little cabin fever so we decided to come down to the water and see what it looked like. we heard it was a storm surge. >> what did you expect to see when what have you seen?
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>> we expected to see frankly a little more surf than is going on here now. but the wind and the sleet, it's like -- it's really pounding against you. >> i have been carrying on all day about how hardy you new englanders are and you have seen weather. but this is different for you. how long have you been out here? >> i have been in new england my whole life. this particular storm, it's pretty good. i mean, i lived through the blizzard of '78. >> that's what everybody keeps referring to. >> this is nothing compared to that, so far, anyway. >> you have ventured further than we have because we have been sort of staying around this area. how far did you walk down here? >> about a quarter mile. >> and what does it look like? >> it's about 4 or 5 inches of snow. slushy snow on the streets. nothing's really plowed yet. so it's really slushy. and but the wind is the hardest. it's like really, really blowing on you. >> power outages or does it seem to be power?
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there's power all around here. is there power where you are? >> we lost power for about a minute a couple times and then it flicked back on. so far so good. >> again, interesting, anderson, because you were mentioning to poppy you hadn't seen anyone around her. jason has been out on his own. i was certain i wouldn't see anybody. i was quite surprised to see these guys. the surf is up, but the line of the surf is not further in than you would expect. it's a little rougher, but the wind and icy pellets are really the problem around here, anderson. >> i'm glad you found two friends, ali. >> i do have two friends. >> ali, we'll continue to check in with you. try to get some warmth. jason carroll is in boston. how are things in the last 30 minutes or so? >> well, we're getting a bit of an estimate here. we're hearing about a foot and a half of snow has fallen so far on boston. this is going to be the problem tomorrow on streets like this. check out this car right here. i mean, in order to try to dig
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out, it's going to be really an effort here. tomorrow, the whole story is going to be about digging out and trying to get into cars like this one that are parked on streets like this. as you can see over here, it looks like fresh snow. just about two hours ago, there was a ploe that went through this entire area, but it's tough to tell, isn't it? this is how much snow has fallen since the plow has been in here. doesn't even look like a plow has been in this particular parking lot. in south boston, but the reality is some 600 plows have been out throughout the city all night trying to battle this blizzard. throughout the state, you've got about 4,000 pieces of equipment, the national guard numbering about 5,000, who are on the standby when the teeth of the storm hits. just about an hour or so from now. we blizzard like conditions, if you look up the street, you can barely see up the street. simply because you have this powdery like snow which is blowing all over the place and making things very difficult. i just want to give you an
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example of how cold it is here. in between live shots, i run to my truck which is being buried in the snow drift, but my photographing stays out so you can get live bumps, live pictures of what is going on. let me show you, hand that to my producer. this is hard. he's like the tin man out here. it's trying to -- thanks, bob, for doing that for us. bob the photographer, who is now literally frozen stiff. >> wow. >> you can see he's still out here shooting, giving us an idea of how cold it gets out here. >> amazing job that all our folks are doing behind the scenes. you know, jason, interesting to see how powdery that snow is because in the 8:00 hour when we first starting talking, it was a much wetter, harder pack snow, the kind you said was good for making snowballs, building snowmen, but now it seems it's innature of the snow has changed. >> yeah, remember that before? as i said, it was like a sticky kind of substance.
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look at it now. you can see it's that powdery kind of stuff you heard chad myers talking about earlier. it's this powdery kind of snow that once you have blizzard like conditions, you have what, 40, 50-mile-per-hour wind gusts blowing around logan international. once that gets up into the air, that's why you have the white-out conditions. that's why it's very important to stay off the roads. in fact, it's illegal at this point to be on the roads in the state of massachusetts. according to the governor, after he issued that mandate that said only emergency vehicles can be out. anyone caught being out in the roads other than emergency vehicles can face a fine up to $500 and jail time up to a year. >> wow. all right, jason, we'll continue to check in with you. let's get the big picture now. where the storm is, how much longer it's got. chad myers in the weather center. chad, where are you tracking right now? >> it will start shutting off from the poconos eastward in a couple hours. probably shut off in new york city in about six hours. still, an awful long way to go for east of there, connecticut,
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rhode island, massachusetts. mt. sinai, 19 inches. this is suffolk count a, the north shore of long island. 19 inches. manchester, keblth, 18.5. if you go into mansfield, into massachusetts, 16 inches of snow. we haven't seen numbers like this now for a while. we know that it has been snowing 2 to 3 inches per hour. if it will do that, even 1 to 2 inches per hour, for another eight hours, you can do the math. we still have more snow to come, especially into new england. connecticut, massachusetts, rhode island. a little shutting off in new york city rights now, but the snow is still coming down. and it will come down for the rest of the night. probably until morning. every time we see the blue here, the lighter blue, that is heavier snow. when you see the pink, that's what ali velshi is in. he's right there, and the pink is snow that's kind of melted and froze again, and the closer you get to the center of the low, the warmer it's going to get. and ali is going to be the closest person to that center of the low, so he's going to see
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that stuff, that pelting icy snow all night long. back out farther to the west, it's going to be all powdery snow because now it's getting colder. and we're getting even a little bluer area around new york city where the snow is coming down harder. probably another 4 to 6 for the city before it's done. that's what we're thinking at this point. more snow east of let's say saratoga all the way into new england. less snow if you obviously get west of the hudson river. >> chad, when you and i talked about 24 hours ago last night, there were a couple different tracks for the storm. there was kind of a more optimistic one and one that you thought would be more accurate. so far, any big surprises, this storm following the path you thought? >> a little bit of a surprise because we had two lows, one in michigan and one in georgia. they were supposed to get together. the one over michigan was slow to arrive. and slow, so when the rain came into new york city, it should have been snow. that's why there isn't a lot of snow in the city, only about 4 inches in central park.
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because it rained a lot of the day, rain/snow mix a lot of the day, the snow in central park in new york city never did pile up. that was the good news. very happy that we weren't going to get all that snow piling up in the city. but now the warm and the cold have combined and so the low even though it was slow to arrive from michigan, it's now there and the snow is coming down everywhere. there's no more rain/snow mix over than where we are right on the cape. the only rain/snow mix. but everybody else will just get all snow all night. >> i have what is probably a dumb question. what makes a storm a blizzard rather than just a really bad snow storm. >> chris cuomo was talkinguct that earlier. it is a wind event. you have to have wind over 35 miles per hour for three hours straight, talking about visibility less than a quarter of a mile. it can be a ground blizzard even without snow. if it's just a blizzard, just blowing that light, fluffy snow around where you can't see a quarter mile, that's still a ground blizzard, but a true blizzard has to have snow falling from the sky at the same
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time. all of those things have to be put together. >> i was ten years old in '78. i still remember that blizzard, that snow storm here in new york city. any sense of how this is going to compare to '78? >> for new york city, it won't be an issue. we won't be close in the city because we got half of our resip out of the way as a rain/snow mucky mess. so that was good. we didn't pile up. by this time, we've had enough rain. enough moisture falling out of the sky of new york city. there could have been 12 inches on the ground already with another 4 to 8 to go. that would have got you to even 20. that didn't happen because the cold was slow to arrive. that's the good news for the city. the bad news for boston, the cold air is there and 20 to 30 will be there because now i'm even seeing some spots at 19 already, and we have eight hours of snow to go. we're going to pile this up. >> there had been concern about flooding, storm surge in some of the areas in staten island,
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suffolk county, long island. have we seen that? is it too early to tell? >> some breaches of the eroded dunes. the dunes are in bad shape in new jersey for a while. it's going to take a while for the sea grass and oats to come back and get the dunes back together. sometimes you'll see them put snow fences in the dunes so the sand catches. there have been overwash in some parts, not like sandy. and there's been some flooding from boston northward because the wind, add this point in time, the wind is coming in from the east at 50, 60, and i just right here at logan, i just got a brand new wind gust at logan of 76 miles per hour. so that's just blowing water on the shore, and there is water now coming into some of the low lying areas along the coast of massachusetts and we have heard of flooding in homes already. we just don't have locations put down just yet. >> all right, chad. we'll continue to follow that. one of the important things we're tracking not only over the course of this hour but really
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frankly all night long, well into the morning. follow me on twitter, let me know where you're experiencing the storm, have you lost power? also, other breaking news. new video showing how skilled the fugitive christopher dorner is with a gun. you're going to hear from the police chief who led efforts to capture the snipers in d.c. in 2002. he lets us know what he thinks about the man 37 hunt. ♪ get ready for a lot more of that new-plane smell. we're building the youngest, most modern fleet among the largest us airlines to ensure that you are more comfortable and connected
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hey, welcome back. we're continuing to follow the storm developments through the hour and well into the morning. as we mentioned alt the top, there's the other major story unfolding. lives are on the line. much of southern california on edge because this man, ex-cop and suspected killer christopher dorner is still at large. possibly in the snowy mountains east of los angeles, though frankly, we have no idea. police in irvine, california, released this surveillance videos. these were taken on the 28th of january outside a local hotel. we also have exclusive video of dorner years old taken at a police academy shooting range during his time as a cadet. these days he's on a self-proclaimed mission of resenj against the police force that he says unjustly let him go. police have mistakenly shot two people in search of him. shot at at least one more. they said that both of those groups were in vehicles that resembled his vehicle. we're going to be taking a closer look shortly at dorner's long list of grievances and
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whether there's any fact behind them. first, the ongoing manhunt. randi kaye has that. >> despite the snow and dro in temperatures, search teams climbed to higher elevations hoping to find christopher dorner, the man who has eluded them for days. here at big bear mountain, more than 100 officers are searching for dorner. they're using dogs, too. they went door to door last night without any luck so now they're focusing on a number of abandoned cabins high up the mountain. wondering if dorner set up camp there. s.w.a.t. teams used snowcats to get up the mountain. others jumped inside armored personnel carriers. >> there has been time to get out of here but we're not sure if he has in fact left. there's a number of places up on the mountain that we haven't got to yet that we're continuing to search. >> the search is massive. bear mountain in the san bernardino national forest, stretches hundreds of miles, but police and s.w.a.t. teams are up against more than some treacherous terrain. dorner is a trained marksman
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with survival skills. he could have them in his sights before they spot him. >> it's extremely dangerous. i explained to them to be very careful, but our folks are highly trained. >> snowy weather isn't making the job easier. the sheriff was hoping to put his choppers in the air. they're equipped with thermal imaging and would make spotting dorner on the ground easier if he's still here. given the snow and poor visibility, the helicopters were grounded, at least for now. dorner's burned out truck which authorities recovered thursday on a mountain trail has been removed and processed for clues, and infootprints leading away from the truck, officials now say they stopped suddenly when they reached frozen ground. another dead end. with the search in its second day, authorities have so many questions. they want to know if dorner had ties to big bear, if he ever visited here or had a cabin here. they're also trying to figure out if he had come here earlier before the shootting spree to stash supplies. and if he did, how long will
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those supplies last? no matter the answer, police aren't leaving here until they're sure he's left the mountain or they find him. >> randi is joining us live. i remember last night in the 8:00 hour when we were reporting on this, there was a police press conference. they said they had these air assets, the helicopters with the thermal images. the fact that they haven't been able to get those air assets into the air is clear hae an issue today. do you know how long the bad conditions are supposed to remain? how long is the visibility supposed to be bad? how long are the choppers going to be grounded? >> well, these are really white-out conditions. the sheriff really wasn't able to say how long the choppers would have to stay on the ground. the snow is still continuing at this hour. it's supposed to continue into tomorrow. today, they had no chose but to get out there on the snowcats, so they did that. the snow they say may be working to their advantage. even though it's difficult to get around, the roads are
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treacherous, many are closed, but they can spot footprints. if dorner is here, they may be able to spot his footprints. they had a false alarm earlier today. they found footprints from a cross country skier. they checked those out but they proved to be not belonging to dorner. in some sengs it's very difficult, but in other, it's an advantage. >> you could have a lot of snowfall in a short period of time. dorner's mom's home was searched today. do we know anything about that? >> yes, this is the second time they met with his mother. they had spoken with her, but today they went back with a search warrant and a forensics team and looked at the computers there. we don't know exactly what they took or what they found, but you can bet they were probably searching the computers to see if maybe he had looked into a possible place to escape to or maybe even bought some airline tickets or maybe he made some contact with somebody who might be helping him. so those are things they would be looking for. but christopher dorner didn't live at that house. he was pretty much estranged from his mom, but he was there
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from time to time. he was there in high school and college more full time. so it's unclear what they found, but they were there with that search warrant. >> whatever happens next, and we don't know what is going to happen, the fear and uncertainty in southern california reminds a lot of people about the sniper case that paralyzed the washington, d.c. area in 2002. during that investigation, you got to know the police chief charles moose. i spoke to him earlier tonight. from your experience, what does it tell you that authorities not only haven't located him by not, but apparently he's not launched another attack over the last 24 hours? what does that tell you? >> well, anderson, it tells me that, you know, we always have to remember that police work is very difficult. you know, we want this instant gratification. we're dealing with a person who has thought this process out. apparently he's not using drugs. he's not on alcohol. and he doesn't want anything. the fact that he only wants revenge says he has patience,
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that he's willing to operate at his own pace. we're used to people having a short time span. we're used to them wanting money. i could remember the relief in some strange way when we found out that malvo and mohammed wanted money because then we knew we were dealing with criminals and there would be a process and an opportunity to talk to them privately and negotiate. but with this gentleman, it seems like there is no negotiation. only revenge, and makes it a very difficult case. >> i think back, and i covered that d.c. sniper case. you guys didn't know who you were searching for, so it made it all the more difficult. i suppose there is an advantage this time around in that they at least know who the suspect is, know what his training is and what his training is, basically. >> yes, that does make it easier in some way, but you know, a lot of police work is about boredom. the rest is about confrontation. i think in this case, there may not be a confrontation because
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we're talking about someone willing to ambush. that's a mentality that police officers aren't used to facing. an ambush where they're going oo be hit unknown. hit from their blind side where they're not able to confront their adversary. so that brings a great deal of stress to the police officer, and i think that makes this case ten times more difficult. >> when you have a situation where police officers have been shot at and hit and killed in at least one case, how do you try to sort of make sure that folks don't overreact and that we have had two civilians apparently shot, one of them shot in the back, i thent 20 or 30 shots were fired at newspaper delivery people in a vehicle that was said to resemble the vehicle this man had. as the chief of police, how do you try to send the message you need to be on point, but you also need to be careful? >> well, i think police officers live under those circumstances
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every day. people do make mistakes. people do engage targets inappropriately. and that has to be dealt with. i don't think that's going to be a common theme to this investigation. but i think that's something that police officers face and are trained and try to avoid on a daily basis, to not overreact, to not escalate a situation. but that did happen. we have to remember that. but again, this situation is different. this situation, this gentleman has committed murd. you know, he has no story to tell. he shouldn't be given any kind of forum. he is a murderer. he needs to be brought to ju justice. i hope he surrenders, but certainly there's no forum for him to tell his story. we just celebrated the life and death of dr. martin luther king jr. he changed a lot in this country and this world. he did not resort to violence. violence is not a way to change things. nis gentleman needs to be addressed, he needs to come forth and face justice.
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sympathy needs to cogo out to t victims and their families and loved ones. >> thanks for being with us. good to see you again. we have been covering two breaking stories all night long. next, bake to the blizzard and the reporters in the middle of it. also, the producer who has been driving the car cam throughout the streets of boston, giving you a sense of what the roads are like to encourage people to stay off the roads. we'll be right back. oblins. [ balloon pops, goblin growling ] she wrote a lot about goblins after getting burned in the market. but she found someone to talk to and gained the confidence to start investing again. ♪ and that's what you call a storybook ending. it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade.
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late breaking blizzard development as we look at the midtown skyline. new york authorities have closed the long island expressway. one of the busiest arteries literally on the planet. luckily tomorrow is not a work day. bad as it is in long island, rirs worse in the bay state. ali velshi is out in the cape in the town of dennis port. ali, let's start out with you. it's looking really bad there. just the wibd and the snow moving in front of the camera. >> yeah, your timing is impeccable. you got us in a surge. the sustained winds around here are around the 40-mile-per-hour mark, a little less, but we have a gust coming through as we speak. an increase in the snow, and again, it's the icy pellets. i was going to give you a
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weather update the last time, and the weirdest thing happened, i ran into the two guys who said they had cabin fever and they came for a walk. we haven't been walking around. i have been between here and our shelter, but they did confirm what we thought was going on around here. about 4 to 6 inches of snow, a heavy, slushy snow on the ground. we didn't get a lot of accumulation through the day like providence and boston did because it's warm. although poppy is still getting a lot of accumulation. the gusts are above 60 miles per hour. we're getting one now, and the two guys who came out said they heard a rumor there was a storm surge. there's been no storm surge. the surf is heavy, but it's still where it should be. that's what we've got right now. we've got a couple more hours, probably before the worst of it comes. sustains winds have settled a bit. i have to be clear, i'm on cape cod, but i'm in the middle of the south side of cape cod. the south side of the triangle. innortheast side of the triangle is expected to get things wursz
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than we are. i have been on twitter with a bunch of people around cape cod, trying to get a sense of what's going on. the two guys i spoke to said they lost power for about a minute and it came back on. we have seen flickering lights here while i was on air with u youuyou earlier, we saw a transformer blow. emboldened by the two guys, ow producer and photo journalist went for a walk to see what's going on. they actually found a store open that's still providing things to people walking around. so, you know, people around here are taking it in stride. i think everybody decided to stay home. can't drive. it's massachusetts, like connecticut and rhode island, they're under curfew, but you got us in the middle of a gust here, anderson. if i had to guess, i would say it's 65 miles per hour, something like that. >> interesting to hear the two guys you were talking to compare it to the blizzard of '78. they were saying '78 was way worse, at li at this points in the storm. we'll continue to monitor it
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into the morning hours. and also chad myers, we talked to him and we'll talk to him toward the end of this hour as well. he was saying in the new york area, it's nowhere near where the blizzard of '78 was which i remember very well. let's check in with jason carroll who is in boston. ali is getting hit hard right now, particularly strong gusts coming. how are you faring there? >> we're not having the type of gusts we saw about an hour ago. the story here is snow. and lots of it. look at this car here on the side. tomorrow, this man is going to have a real problem digging out. his hood completely covered with snow here in boston in the south side of boston. there's been about a foot and a half of snow we have seen falling so far. plows have been moving in and out of the area. we have seen several plows come through here. in fact, one at 8:00 came into this church parking lot. doesn't look like it now because it looks like it's just been snow and no plow has been here, but a plow came through, got stuck in this driveway, then got stuck right over there. finally managed to get out.
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some 600 plows are already out on the streets of boston, doing what they can to battle the blizzard. going up and down streets like this, but you can see, it's near visibility. i know you have been checking in with julian cummings' car as he's driving around the streets. this is what he's been dealing with. it's basically a white-out here in boston. this is what it's like at just about 11:30, and the conditions are set to get even worse than what we're experiencing now. once again, gusts every now and then. not on the same way that ali is receiving them. the story here in boston is all about snow. and anderson, tomorrow, the story is going to be not only about digging out but one of the people in this neighborhood remembers when it snows a few years ago. she said the problem was once they started digging out, there was no place to put all of the snow. so tomorrow, the problem is digging out and where to put all of the snow that has fallen. anderson. >> i keep seeing a flashing light over there. what is that? >> a flashing light? >> i swear where keep seeing it.
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yeah, over where you're looking. you were looking -- anyway, i'm not imagining it. other people have seen it as well. i have seen it all night long. anyway, never mind. i'm not going crazy. jason, we'll check in with you again. actually, jason was talking about julian. he's joining us on the phone. you have been driving around, as jazen was saying, and giving us this live image of what it looks like from a driver's perspective because officials want people off the road, and it's important to get a look at the roads. you can see a lot of emergency vehicles. how has it been? how treacherous are the roads? >> the roads are pretty bad right now. we have been out here since 2:00 today when it first started to fall. and we watched it start to stick and accumulate, and now we're seeing plows struggling to keep out. they are, as you said, there are many plows out, but we're on this road we're on now, maybe, maybe 30 minutes ago, and they're now on it again. they're trying their hardest to
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get through. we're trying to be careful to get past the plow so we goent get stuck with it. i'm going to go ahead of it on this one. but it's a total white-out right now. no cars in the road other than emergency vehicles. and there are some people on the road who are walking. >> this may be a dumb question, but ali velshi in cape cod saw a store open. are you seeing an stores, bars, anything like that open, or is everything shut down tight? >> boston is shut down. it's a college town. there are a few bars that are open, and we are seeing people going in and out of them. so, you know, the tradition lives on in boston. riding out the storm. >> have you seen a lot of vehicles stuck in the snow on the side of the road or blocking roads? >> earlier on, we saw a fair amount of cars being towed out to avoid being stuck, but we have seen a few state police cars stuck, and a few plows themselves being stuck. >> i have to say, it looks like a zombie film. it looks like people wandering
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in the middle of the road slowly. kind of plodding along. it's a creepy and bizarre image, really, to see boston like this right now. clearly, a bunch of people out kind of with cabin fever, just wanting to walk around. julian, appreciate it. please stay safe. be careful driving along there. wreel rr be following the weather all night lock. you can find more of the weather and everything else tonight at cnn.com. we wanted to give you more on the manhunt for christopher dorner and his murderous manifesto. we're going to look at what is at the heart of this. we're going to investigate what his complaints are, if there's any validity to them. we'll be right back. [ woman ] my boyfriend and i were going on vacation,
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more now on the breaking news in southern california. the manhunt for the ex-cop and suspected triple murderer, christopher dorner. he sent me a parcel, i learned about it yesterday. it included a coin from bill bratton, and also a dvd from the man who partnership tatded his firing. the man, christopher gettler, said he was kicked by an lapd officer, and dorner believes his account will bolster his case against the police force.
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it's case he lays out in detail. the question is, is there anything to it? take a look. >> the subject of christopher dorner's rage goes back to an incident in july 2007. he was out on patrol with a female officer, a veteran of the force, when they were dispatched to check out a mentally unstable man named christopher gettler. he was refusing to leave the grounds of a hotel. after a struggle, dorner and his partner secured him. then dorner said his partner who is white, unnecessarily kicked gettler twice in the chest and once in the face while he was being cuffed. he said, the kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. unfortunately after reporting it to supervisors and investigated, nothing was done. i had broken their supposed blue line. the blue line he spoke of is a legendary unspoken code of conduct among police that states you never rat out a fellow officer. the lapd did launch an internp investigation into corndorner's
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complaint but found, quote, the alleged kicks had not occurred. dorner wreets, the department stated that i lied and made up the report. dorner was charged with making false statements, and the lapd board of rights found him guilty. according to dorner, this was a result of corruption and retaliation on the part of the lapd. terminating me for telling the truth about a caucasian officer kicking a mentally ill man is disgusting, dorner writes. with the discovery and evidence available, you will see the truth. the evidence dorner points to is the testimony of gettler himself. court documents s show he tolde lapd he was kicked by a female officer. gettler's father also said his son told him about the attack. nbc4 los angeles spoke with gettler's father whoed he remembered that night in 2007 when his son came home and told him he was kicked. >> two in the chest, the third one missed. >> this is my last resort,
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dorner writes. the lapd has suppressed the truth and it's now led to deadly consequences, but did the lapd really suppress the truth? court documents show the testimony of both gettler and his father was heard by the board of rights who say, quote, while the board acknowledge said that the testimony of gettler and his father indicated a kicking had occurred, gettler is schizophrenic, the board did not find him to be a reliable witness, and found his father's testimony was heresy. the board also found that the officer he accused of abuse was considering giving dorner a negative review and that he falsely alleged the kicks in order to stop working with her. dorner challenged his firing in the court of appeals but lost, but this incident is not his only problem with the lapd. he also accused officers of rampant racism, saying they use racial slurs on the job. he writes, quote, the department has not changed since the rampart and rodney king days. it's gotten worse. in his manifesto, he promises, quote, terminating officers because they expose a culture of
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lying, racism, and excessive use of force will immediately change. the blue line will forever be served. you have awoken a sleeping giant. dorner promises violent retaliation against the lapd until his name is cleared. whether or not his claims are true, police say he's already delivering on that promise. well, wherever christopher dorner is right now, police say they believe he could have dozens of weapons with him. in that manifesto, dorner bragged about his rifle and small arms training. he even calls himself a top shot. what does his background tell us about how dangerous he is? brandon webb is a former navy s.e.a.l. and he as a website focused on the special forces community. thank you for being with us. you don't know christopher dorner. you did not work with him in the military, but you have taken issue with the perception that he's a highly trained military sniper. you're saying that's not true. why? >> well, i think it's just important to be real clear on
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his military qualifications. there is only one sniper course in the navy, and that's run by the s.e.a.l. community. it's a course that i used to be a course manager of. but you know, i looked at -- i was looking at the reports coming out, and you could see that this is not a highly trained individual. he didn't even qualify expert with his rifle medal, so i think it's important to point out that he's not some highly trained military special operations person. it just seems like he's had a little bit of military training, and thank goodness he's not a trained sniper or else we would be in a lot worse situation in los angeles than we currently are. >> we have just gotten video today of the small arms training he got with the lapd. but would he have received -- with the lapd in regular training, he would not have received sniper training with him, would he? >> no, the sniper training, and i have trained the los angeles
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s.w.a.t. guys and their snipers, and they're great guys, but it's a very specialty piece of training to get. and he wouldn't have had that training. as a regular officer. >> if he was a military trained sniper, do you think we would be looking at a situation more like the d.c. sniper case instead of some of these close range attacks which he's allegedly perpetrated? >> yeah, i think in the case of the d.c. sniper case, those guys weren't really trained military snipers, either. they were just usish sniper like tactics. but if he was a trained sniper, the los angeles police department would be in a world of hurt, i can guarantee that much. i just think we're gae-- jour r s you're seeing a disturbed individual, and i don't permy see this ending well because like was said earlier on the show, he really has nothing to lose at this point. >> if he is up in the big bear area and that's where his burned
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out vehicle was found, the conditions there have deteriorated a lot in the last 24 hours, seeing a lot of snow falling. it's very difficult for law enforcement, the conditions up there. how much skill does someone need to elude capture and survive in an area like this if they haven't found a home to break into and stay in or if they don't have some sort of home to stay in? >> i mean, it's an extremely tough situation. having been to survival school myself, and you know, when you're in the mountains and it drops below freezing, you better have very good survival skills. i would say if that is the situation, he's in really bad shape. i would probably suspect that he is holed up somewhere, and the main advantage that he has is he as a former police officer, he understands the way the police departments work, how they communicate, what the response times are. in that case, he is at an advantage there. >> and from all of the reports we have, there are a number of
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homes in this area which are vacation homes and are theoretically empty that he could use and maybe just be holed up. i apraeshate your expertise and you being on. thank you. >> no problem. thanks. >> well, let's go back to our blizzard coverage. the worst not over. we'll check in with chad myers ahead.
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the twitter account i is @savealleyvelshi. take a look. >> anderson, we have been sort of checking out the levels. and i e-mails chad myers earlier. i said there was a calm before the storm. i couldn't figure out why we didn't have much snow. it's like magic chad because it's really started to come down here. i just wanted to let you know while it's lovely, it's also a real pain in the butt because we're getting reports of 26,600 people without power in connecticut. that's sure to get worse. i do want to report something to you. just before you came to us, a
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number of emergency vehicles went flying by with their sirens on. so i called the connecticut state police and i said what's going on. they said a trooper has had an accident on 95. he's okay, minor injuries. it tells you if a trooper is getting into an accident, there's a reason there's a state wide ban on travel. one other thing, i have been doing the presidents measurement. i think as the governor of the state said, this is when it's going to start getting a lot more serious. the snowfall is going to get a lot morehick. 3 to 5 inches an hour. our official presidents measurement, we have reached millard fillmore, which is about 7 inches or so. now i can tell you every 10 minutes or so, we're going up a president, and they're really cooped up in here. >> i know you're cold, but what
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are you talking about? the measurements of the presidents? >> get you kathy griffin on. i have a second grader, so this is what the rulers are like when you're in second grade. i have been measuring in presidents. we started at washington. we're at fillmore. i'm waiting to get to cleveland. >> it's been a long night, hasn't it? >> i have been up since 4:00. that's all i'm going to say. >> listen, try to stay warm, ashlei ashleigh, thank you. >> folks are getting snow crazy. let's check back in with chad myers in the weather center. >> i think we're now 30 quarter. we're as big, as close, as deep, as low as we're going to get. just had a wind gust at logan airport of 76. buzzards bay, 74 miles per hour, and we have even see the snow pile up. mt. sinai, 19. same way for manchester, mansfield into massachusetts at
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16. this is going to be the story for the rest of the day. the low is south of ali velshi now. he's not going to see a lot more snow. he's going to see the ice pellet stuff slam him from the side. but if you're away from the storm a little bit, it's colder. colder aloft and that turns into all snow. the snow stays with boston and providence and hartford for at least another 6 to 10 hours. it begins to back away from the hudson valley. new york city, you have a couple more hours of the light snow and then it pulls away for you, too. the winds haven't really reached all the way back here, all the way back into new york city. the biggest wind i could find was 20, 30 miles per hour in the city. that's because the snow and the storm is beginning to pull away in the next couple hours. we won't see that much wind back there. i don't know that we're going to get blizzard conditions in new york city. plus a lot of snow that came down in the city came down and stuck to the ground. now it's frozen there like a big ice skating rink under about 3 or 4 inches of snow. as you walk out in the city, you think it's okay, but there's a
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layer of ice under that. the big snows won't be for new york city. they'll be farther to the east because the snow continues. we will see, we will see before this is of, anderson, some place with 30 inches of snow or even more. >> wow. all right, chad, appreciate it. amazing job all night long. we'll be right back. [ babies crying ] surprise -- your house was built on an ancient burial ground. [ ghosts moaning ] surprise -- your car needs a new transmission. [ coyote howls ] how about no more surprises? now you can get all the online trading tools you need without any surprise fees. ♪ it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade.
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